Join Olivier Archer and guests Simon Roth, Dennis Please, and Megann for an engaging dive into the world of computer graphics and gaming in this latest episode of CGCast. The conversation spans a wide array of topics, from the latest hacks and software
updates (like Firefox 2 and IE7) to nostalgic gaming discussions on classics like Diablo and Resident Evil, and the challenges of transitioning between different operating systems. They explore the intricacies of game design, sharing insights into
beta testing experiences with games like Trackmania United and reflecting on the evolution of gaming culture, including the humorous aspects of online gaming personas and gender bending in virtual worlds. The episode also touches on industry news,
such as the halted Halo movie project and the ongoing debate about film versus digital photography in professional settings. With a touch of humor and genuine enthusiasm, they delve into personal projects, like Simon's coding adventures and Megann's
gaming strategies, making this episode a must-listen for anyone passionate about graphics, gaming, and tech trends.
This episode promises a blend of technical insights, personal anecdotes, and lively discussions that cater to both seasoned professionals and casual gamers interested in the evolving landscape of computer graphics and gaming.
Welcome everybody to another exciting episode of CGCast.
My name is Uli J. Archer and tonight I have Simon Roth,
Dennis Please, and Megann.
What's up guys?
Nothing much man, what's up on your side?
Just bored.
What's up Megann?
Um, nothing much.
Nothing much? Weren't we all very talkative five minutes
ago?
That's until you started recording.
Yeah.
uh
oh we're ignoring simon what are you up to simon what are
you coding when we're coding
no much html yeah excited no i'm emotionally good mood oh
excited awesome beans man awesome beans
yeah um uh i heard that uh mudbox got hacked oh really yeah
really you were that solar sage
Simon it's close to say no way
Yahweh
Seriously?
Anyways
I have Mudbox
Really?
No?
Oh
So anyways you got
Link on the forum
It's a Mudbox
I'm afraid of clicking it
I heard that it was a virus
Oh yes it's a Trojan
Or Trojan
Yes it was any Trojan
And uses a special exploit
Ah Windows
What will Jared listen to next?
I'm scared of Vista man
Why? Vista seems awesome
Have you tried it?
No.
And have you seen what the specs are?
Like just for Vista?
I put...
My brother put Vista on his laptop
and it's pretty cool actually.
It's very smooth and
class and everything.
I still have an old computer running 98.
Really? That's terrible.
How about that?
And I'm going to keep another computer running XP.
Yeah, I'm going to keep XP for a while.
Fancy new stuff.
It won't run my old games and stuff.
Oh, you keep it for old stuff?
Yes.
Oh, man, I'm so bummed that I can't play my Simon the Sor
cerer games.
You used to have Simon the Sorcerer.
It's one of the best point-and-click adventure games ever.
I can sell you a Pentium 2 laptop, which will run it
perfectly.
Wait a second, I thought Simon the Sorcerer was...
Oh, damn, I'm confusing it with something else. Never mind.
I never played it.
Oh, it's awesome.
Oh, yeah, did I, apparently.
I thought it was like a platformer, but nope, confusing.
No, no, no. It's a point-and-click adventure.
With ridiculous English humor.
For fuck's sake.
Is it kind of like, all your base will belong to us?
Um, no.
Good humor.
I never got that.
What's that from, anyway?
It's from a game.
It's a game.
All your base belongs to us?
Yes, it was a bad translation.
It was another...
World of Warcraft.
Yeah, set us up to bomb.
It's not World of Warcraft.
No, but I would expect it to be World of Warcraft.
What?
World of Warcraft is not very Japanese.
It's American, man.
More Koreans play.
Koreans play every MMO.
Even the treadmill ones.
It's that horrible game that's just a freaking treadmill.
Lineage 2.
That game is just something...
Grind, grind, grind, grind, grind.
Yeah.
Play any MMOs.
You should try at least one.
You know, what's...
Titan Quest is a great game.
I haven't tried it.
No, it isn't.
It's never played.
It's 3D.
What?
Simon?
Titan coalesces Diablo in 3D.
Yeah.
Remember Diablo?
Yeah.
You basically...
You click to kill something
and then you just keep clicking.
And that's the whole game.
There was a killer to it.
Isn't that the same with Warcraft?
Yeah.
It's the same for every game.
In the first-person shooter,
you click to kill something.
That's why they can't...
Oh, yeah.
But that's why they can't...
Those MMOs can't hold my interest for very long.
I just want action with a mouse,
with a keyboard.
and stuff like that.
Well, there's Asheron's Call.
That was a pretty cool game.
Asheron's Call 2 sucked really bad,
but the first one is still going on, ironically.
It outlived Asheron's Call 2.
And you could do...
That's funny.
Yeah, it was action-based too, so...
It was not turn-based.
No, but Titan Quest is different in some areas.
Like, for example, in Diablo,
you would have a chest where you could save some items.
And every time you die, you would lose money
or experience points, something like that.
And in Titan Quest, you don't lose either.
But you don't have a chest where you can put special stuff
in.
So you can either run around with the special items or sell
them.
Can you play co-op?
Because I remember playing Diablo on PlayStation with my
friend.
Well, I never tried it, actually.
Because I was afraid it would be something like Diablo,
that you would just play the game with others around
and they would just jump into a new game
with someone that has maximum levels, you know,
and just runs through the game like it's nothing.
And you're just trying to struggle with a zombie.
Have you guys seen the movie Tom and His Pals on YouTube?
No.
Hold on, I'll go find the link.
It's really, really funny.
All right, but we have to talk.
Yes, well, we're now talking about games.
That's not very on topic either.
Well, it is.
I think for entertainment purpose.
Well, games are related to CG.
I work in the games industry.
I played Company of Heroes.
What do you do, to be honest?
I don't know what you do.
It's coffee.
Yeah, it's coffee.
I work remotely over the internet, fetching them coffee.
Yes, that's it.
It's technology.
Yep.
You're sending them digital coffee.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was thinking of a new thing.
like make internet weddings,
you know,
the stuff that they do in Las Vegas,
but then on the internet.
Actually,
it's called the helmet.
That sounds so sad, man.
Species, did you get married?
I don't know.
There were all humans.
The thing is that I had joined this clan
and then like,
there was only two of us online.
So we decided to get married for the heck of it
because there's a quest,
there's a quest involved in it.
So we went to check out what the quest was,
and then you have to do a quest to get a diamond to make
the ring,
and then there's a big stairway, and there's fireworks.
All the clan members, hey, help me, they didn't invite us.
Like, oh, I'm bored.
But that was like seven years ago.
That's when Asheron's Call came out.
When I played, it was Counter-Strike.
Yeah, Counter-Strike.
Too many cheaters.
German cheaters, yeah.
Yes, that's true.
I was living in the Netherlands back then.
Yeah, but there's still cheers.
Whatever.
Oh, snap.
Please stop.
I beg you.
Hey, Simon,
looks like you have competition for Outsourcer.
There's 3djobs.ca.
I really don't care.
I don't really...
I don't know the Outsourcer.
Why?
But this is the time...
The 3djobs is just full of ads,
and it's not pretty.
And it's in a black background and stuff.
Yeah, black background and grey.
Good luck to you.
Needs.
And the logo is just all sorts of colours.
It's like yellow, blue, green, orange, red, yellow.
Our source still comes to up.
It's just been hit by a hack attack this afternoon by the
government.
Oh, snap.
What? Which one?
Which one?
Oh, you got away with that one, Olivier.
Who hacked you, Simon?
I'll trace them later and then spam them back.
Yeah, somebody spammed me today.
His name starts with an S.
Hey, that's my name.
Still have 40 views, dude.
Outsourcing.
That's lame.
Tom, it's Chums.
But why Chums?
Chums is an English word.
I don't know.
I guess it's a French word as well.
And don't ask me how to pronounce it,
but there's a second one you need to...
Six minutes?
We'll watch it later.
Yeah, it's like you also have to watch the second...
It's so funny.
Oh, there's Dennis Please on House Sorcerer.
Yeah, it's me, it's me.
Yay.
Page cannot be displayed.
Yeah, I removed my site.
Oh, there's Dennis' email.
Time to spam.
My email?
I'll fix that up soon.
I promise I will, but I can't do it at the moment.
Now I know where all that spam came from.
Thank you, Simon.
Wait, you got spam off answers.com?
No, not really.
interviews.
Alright,
I was about to say.
Wait,
have you guys seen
the new Dungeon Siege
trailer?
No.
It is...
I don't think so.
It's pretty badly made.
Oh?
Yeah,
they're making
a Dungeon Siege movie
and they made
the second trailer.
It doesn't matter,
it is,
didn't it?
Yeah.
Oh,
did you know that
Uwe Boll kicked
Lotex's ass
in the boxing match?
No,
we don't.
If you don't know,
Lotex is the owner
of somethingawful.com.
Oh.
And Uwe Boll
said, alright, all you people who are criticizing
my movies, come into me for
a boxing match. And Lothax said
that Yui Ball said he would train
him before the boxing match
so he would have a chance and
uwe boll didn't train him at all
so Low Tax got his
ass kicked really fast.
Makes me hate Algec.
And another part of the deal that Yui Ball
was allowed to use the footage of the fight
in one of his movies.
Insult to injury.
And also Yui Ball was a professional
professional boxer and he's gonna fight
a 17 year old kid
so yeah Yuri Ball is a
man among men
anyways
you wanna say something Megann?
no
but the trailer is I don't know it's like
Lord of the Rings rip off
there's some ninjas in it
ninjas in Lord of the Rings
there are many
movies from games that I like
the only movie that I kind of liked was
Silent Hill
I never saw it
I don't like the game
so perhaps the movie
is good
I like the Mario
which parts
did you play
only the first
I have no idea
I played some parts
and every time
I was like
is this supposed
to be scary
they were like
this game is so scary
you'll play it in the dark
and etc
and I was waiting
for it to get scary
well it's not
really scary
but the storyline
in part 2
is great
it's very deep
well it's because
you were like that
you were
waiting it for it to be scary
so you killed the mood.
Oh, right.
Well, I was...
In all the reviews I read about it,
it was kind of like Resident Evil.
People praise it to the sky
and I'm like, what's the big fuss?
Oh, yeah.
I played Resident Evil 1.
The first one is still the best.
The first three
Alone in the Dark games.
Yeah, I know.
I played those games.
God, I hated that game so much
I could never progress through the game
because I always died
and I don't know why
I finished it several times
the first one at least
I don't remember if I finished the second one
the third one I never did, but
the first zombie in Resident Evil 1
killed me and that pissed me off
and I never
I was like, f*** up, man
f*** you up
and your face
after I finished Alone in the Dark 1
I kept wandering around the library
and trying to read every book that was in there
it was so funny
oh man
it's like reading
every book in
oblivion
no you
you read those
books in a
little bit of
dark because
they either
kill you or
do something
else nasty to
you that's why
you read the
books they're
yeah
oh damn
they're
quite literally
nice
oh you had a
lot of spare
time on your
hands back then
too much
way too much
it's kind of
like my situation
right now
I still haven't
heard from
guerrilla games
though
oh snap
yeah
isn't that one
that's NDA
kind of breaking things that we're not allowed to talk
about.
Why can I not talk about
my application
for a company? I don't know.
Why is that breaking any NDA?
Yeah, that's not an NDA. You haven't signed anything yet.
Exactly.
What have you applied?
Simon needs to talk of the definition of NDA.
What have you applied?
Artist.
What kind of artist?
Environmental artist. Awesome.
He makes some wicked
trucks.
When did you apply?
Five or six weeks ago.
And you still haven't heard anything at all?
No, I had to do an art test because my portfolio wasn't
that extensive.
So they wanted to see some more skills.
So I did the art test and I handed it in three weeks ago.
So if you have a big portfolio, that would exclude you from
the art test or something?
It depends.
It depends on the complexity of your objects.
And all my objects were pretty small.
It did not really show off some next generation content or
something.
In other news, there's the Halo movie,
which the two companies got out of it, I think was
Universal.
Halo?
Yeah, Halo.
Halo.
Yeah, you know, the very famous Xbox game.
Yes.
The one that I never played, which is very boring if you
play the same player.
I only played it at a show, at some sort of...
Hello?
Yeah.
Who are we missing?
Somebody from the chat got up.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'm going to leave this chat.
There was a show, game show, PC Gameplayers.
No, that wasn't it.
It doesn't matter what it's called.
But they had kind of Xboxes sitting there with Halo 2.
and we could also play on stage and now being a girl at a
game event is really really cool why
because you never have to wait in line if you want to play
on stage of course i lost everything
that doesn't matter but uh if yeah if they're like they're
people all these guys are standing
in front of the in front of the um stage and people go like
okay we're going new round to
we need new players and they're going like jumping up and
down oh me me me pick me me pick me and i'm
I'm just about to raise my hand, saying, yeah, sure, okay,
I'll try it.
They rush through the audience and grab me, pull me up on
stage,
and put me behind one of the consoles.
And this happened to me three times at least.
Wow.
But I lost every time because I'm not...
I'm a PC gamer, really.
If it was a PC, I would have kicked their ass, but whatever
.
Wow.
We need to start wearing wigs then to the game shows.
Yeah, definitely.
Exactly.
Dress up as a girl, they'll love it.
Awesome.
I'd be a pretty ugly girl, but it's not right.
Awful, man.
Also, they had pictures of the master chief.
They had somebody in one of those suits,
the master chief, whatever.
Thank you, sir, chef.
Nasty chief, sir, chef.
Hey, chef.
And you could be on a photo with the master chief.
That's sad, man.
That's sad.
No, that's funny.
That's cool.
We did that anyway.
So that was fun.
Oh, yeah.
I can scan it in.
Oh, it's an actual foot.
I have it sitting here on the desk. Hold on.
All right.
But back on topic.
So Fox and Universal, I think, pulled out of the Halo movie
because it was going to be over budgeted.
Okay, you bastards. I will scan it in.
All right. Nice.
So Microsoft is going to pay for the Halo movie, I think.
Not particularly good.
Why?
Enough with the snap.
Because I'm not going to watch that movie anyway.
How are you going to watch it?
I'd watch it
it seems cool
because the
Halo storyline
Halo
say Halo
it's an A
Halo
Halo
Halo
Halo
anyways the
Halo
Halo
whatever
actually it's
Halo
it's Halo
it's a
Halo
Halo
it's Halo
anyways
it's a
Halo movie
anyways it's
like the
ring around
the angels
the Halo
storyline isn't
so bad
it's pretty
interesting actually
no there isn't
a Halo storyline
yes there's
books and
there's like
three books
on it man
I know but
there wasn't like
a storyline to start with
yeah there was
oh shit
let's make a storyline
you think
they're gonna say
let's just randomly
put a halo
floating in outer space
with an environment
and some random aliens
for fun
they actually
thought it out
too bad
the game was just
level
all the levels
were clones
of each other
that made it
really boring
yeah
they like
selected bits of it
and just mirrored it
copy paste
copy paste
copy paste
I can't
play the game
like six times
just playing one level.
Play some Twitch shooters.
Play Unreal Tournament.
I already passed that.
I played the original.
That's too fast for me.
No, no, no.
That's 2004.
Yeah, I have.
To Shuffleflow is quite good.
Isn't that the one
with all the 3D Buzz tutorials on it?
Could be.
Oh, yeah, there is.
Yeah, I bought that.
I'll take it to school
and start some land parties.
What else?
Yeah, so I think it's pretty cool
that Microsoft is going to pay
for the bill on the movie.
hopefully it will completely put them out of business
and then we can have decent operating systems
oh sure to my Simon
go and use a Mac
it's a wreck
don't make fun I use Macs at work
I use Macs at school all day long
final cut
I don't mind Macs
just I hate Mac fanboys
it's alright
fanboys in general
well there's not many Windows fanboys
you don't see guys like Windows is the rocksters
so you do
I don't
I'm not a fanboy
I just like to say
Negative things
Against Macs
To piss off the fanboys
There are plenty of them
Now on CG Talk
I said that
I said that
Final Cut
Is the same as Premiere
And I got flamed for that
And it's the truth
Because I use both of them
Extensively
The only thing that changes
For me is the freaking shortcut
It's
Instead of control K
I have to press control V
The damn
Apple key is very annoying
but I digress
what else isn't in use
these awkward songs
5 for last 2 came out
and internet explorer 7
so what's your opinion on that
I haven't tried firefox 2 but
I don't care about either of them
I like IE7, IE7 is nice
7 what?
internet explorer 7 is nice
oh hell no
I'm never going to use
i'm never going to use internet explorer again
what are you using now then
Firefox
IE7 is nice
it's
they changed the menu
completely so it's
you have to get used to it
and I think
it handles
pop-up galore
no there are no pop-ups
and
I know
it's true
I've been using it
since last year
since the beta
and I think it handles
tabs better than Firefox
ooh
it's like opera
because you can't click
I still don't want to use it
well
it's up to you
I'm not going to force you
well you were just about
to say that you can do
in this
like
scroll with tabs
No, you click the tab.
There's a button to click new tab.
Because in Firefox, you have to go file, new tab, or
control.
No, no, the new Firefox has got tons of new features for
using tabs.
I haven't installed it yet.
I'm just using Firefox.
How about Firefox?
1.06.
Why are you all out of the chat?
No, I can't give you the link.
Because they're all antisocial.
No, too many Windows downloads.
I'm a freak.
Oh, you already scanned the photo?
Hold on.
No, I'm trying.
Okay.
There.
Wow.
Ching, yay.
The person in the Master Chief suit is really small.
It's really short.
It's the person.
I thought Master Chief would be him, but he'd be taller.
Yeah.
Nope, he isn't.
You know that guy reminds me of a Doom soldier?
Hi.
Space Marine from Doom.
Yeah.
Anyway, there's other people or people from my class.
so...
You look different
than I expected.
Oh,
what have you expected?
I don't know,
somebody older?
I am older now.
This picture is about
two years old.
How old are you?
I'm 24.
Oh,
fair enough.
What did you expect then?
I don't know,
somebody much...
Your voice...
Being honest.
I just mean
being honest.
When you're breaking up...
Can you hear me?
Yeah,
I'm being honest.
I don't know,
your voice sounds
more mature.
What?
What? We're breaking up still.
Can you hear me now?
Yeah, it's fixed.
My headset sucks. Sorry about that.
It's alright.
So really, how old had you thought... expected?
I was, whatever.
I don't know, 30?
30? What the fuck?
Ouch.
30? For crying out loud.
I don't know, you just have a mature voice for some reason.
Well, that's good. 30.
But you don't...
Still beg to differ, though.
Why?
I don't think she sounds old.
At all.
Old?
30 is like, yeah, it's like ancient.
Not really.
Nah, man.
Simon is almost 30.
Oop.
Well, that I hadn't expected.
Yeah, Lord Shamu.
I didn't know you were saying in 10 days.
Or was it 12 days?
I don't remember.
We can use this episode to say happy birthday to Simon.
Oh, wait, it'd be birthday to you.
12 days, all right.
No, you know, I actually love to sing that because Disney
and the copyright and you have to pay 10,000 pounds.
Okay, let's sing some other one.
Do we know any other one?
Feliz cumpleaños.
I wish you a happy birthday.
I wish you a happy birthday.
That sounds just bizarre.
It's a very Christmas song.
I wish you a happy...
What is it?
I don't know.
That's not hard, man.
Everybody can do it.
I'm musically inept.
Same here, but I still try.
Well, you can take it.
Okay, so now if you want to burn out a bit.
Well, actually, you get three seconds free in all music.
Oh, I think we're only at three seconds.
That's probably, even if you said one word.
So, that's good.
What other interesting things can we talk about?
Oh, snap, it's almost Halloween.
Yeah, but that's not it.
Snap!
Well, Halloween is awesome.
There's no Halloween in Europe.
Yeah, exactly.
That's why it's not awesome.
It's very, very off topic, by the way.
Let's talk about more games.
I signed up for the Trackmania United beta.
And you're happy because you're one of the lucky 5,000?
Yes, who got a key.
I'm very happy about that.
And you're rubbing it in everybody's face.
Well, only people who are fans of Trackmania didn't get a
key.
That hurts.
I'm being very mean.
Yes.
You can share your key.
Amen.
No, I can't share my key.
I can only use it once.
You can only use it on one machine.
So I activated it at work.
Really stupid.
So now I can only play it at work.
but that's good because I got plenty of homework to do so
so you play games at work
I did that once
in my break
I have a lunch break and stuff
and after work
don't you eat lunch during your lunch break
well I do I eat lunch
I have like a sandwich in one hand
and I play race games with my other hand
fair enough
multitasking
yeah exactly I mean I'm supposed to do that
why are you gonna live up to the female
guidelines
you need to multitask
otherwise you're not a female
you have to be able
to multitask
yeah exactly
I mean I already play games
I'm already a nerd
and yeah
pretty much
not really
move around in a male
dominated society
yeah how does that feel
um
I don't notice it
to be honest
I got that
sometimes I go like
you play games
that's it
do that
Tech said I was
I was trying to
pick up
learn how to pick up girls
oh yeah
from the Elsa interview
yeah
I don't know why though
Was it really that bad?
I don't remember.
I don't think so.
She was really, really shy.
And I heard she's not normally shy, so that's not fair.
Yeah, but to be honest, those questions that you asked her,
I would ask the same.
Because I don't know many or any girls in the CG business.
Or at least not many.
Maybe tech is surrounded by CG girls, girls that do CG.
Maybe.
I just know one so far.
On my course, out of 50 people, there are 7 girls this year
.
But last year, there were 15 girls.
What? Your class?
Yeah.
Wow.
And what do you study?
Animation and visualization.
So they're also shrinking the amount.
Yeah.
Girls don't like CG.
Yeah, there's plenty of girls who like CG.
It's more like, I think, the more programming stuff that's
like even less girls.
I think the girls just pretend to be guys on the internet.
Oh, no, no, no.
Whenever I play a game online and stuff like that,
I always play under the nickname Megann
because it's so much fun to take the best person.
It doesn't always work, unfortunately,
but sometimes just all the people suck on one server
and take the best person on that server
and keep giving them headshots and stuff like that.
And they get so pissed off because they've been, yeah,
fragged by a girl.
Awesome.
I should change my name to a girl's name as well.
I'm going to use my voice to convince them that I am.
I can try to mimic a girl's voice, though.
Try it.
No, I'm not going to try it now.
Come on.
No.
Come on.
We can give you feedback.
No.
Come on, Dennis.
You can do it.
Yeah.
Let's hear it.
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
Come on, Dennis.
I don't want to go down in internet history as the guy that
's girl.
There's actually many guys who play as under female names
and pretend to be girls.
It's called gender bending.
Oh, really?
I don't want to be part of that society, really.
It's not a society.
It's just guys who like to laugh at other guys
who are being so stupid and believing that they're girls.
Oh, well, there are many of those.
hang out on Skype
yes hang out on Skype
long enough
and get the experience
in shorter
actually Skype is pretty fun
we should just talk about
why is this not recording
okay now it's recording
thank god
okay so we're missing
a whole bunch of the
conversation
no it just did three seconds
I hate it when it drops out
anyway Skype is pretty cool
I think like more CG people
should use it
because normally
like it's me
Dennis and Simon
hanging out
and we talk about
stuff and quite a bit it goes on cg like the other day me
gan did this amazing uh hack on skype
was like what oh yeah i remember i don't know how you did
that you know i didn't know anything i
just added the new person to the conversation and that in
that person was already in another
conversation so eventually there were like two
conversations running and we could hear everybody
it was 10 and they could hear us 10 people were talking
yeah people yeah that's awesome
Talking about CG, that was just awesome.
That was a lot of fun.
And we were able to reproduce it like three times.
Yeah, but not today, unfortunately.
No, but there's not enough people on today.
I think you'd have to have like two groups already set up
and then they have to merge.
Invite one of them into the other group.
So one person is in both groups and that's awesome.
Yeah, we'll have to experiment.
Or you can just buy a computer Intel Core 2 Duo processor
turn and can add more people.
Simon, can you calm down
please? Assuming that
you don't have that much money,
you can just hack Skype.
Exactly.
Megann, why don't you write us a tutorial?
I don't know if I can do
it again. Maybe it was just, you know...
Share luck.
Yeah, a lucky Skype day.
If I can
do it again whenever I want to,
then I will write a tutorial on it.
I promise.
Yeah, just look at CG Talk again.
Yeah, well, I can talk about Halloween because I really
love Halloween
and it sucks that I don't get to do Halloween.
Why not?
Because in Honduras, Halloween was a thing of the devil.
Switzerland, you just don't care about it.
It's commercial here.
No, they do Halloween here.
You're lucky.
I want to dress up as Donnie Darko and go out and trick-or-
treat
and throw rolling flaming toilet paper rolls.
I'm going to go out as myself.
That's scary enough.
A 20.
20?
You don't get to go trick-or-treating when you're 20.
Or at least I think not.
I love candy.
I'd do anything for candy.
You'd be surprised, Megann.
If I was in Florida or any state right now,
I'd just go around every freaking house I can.
I look much younger than I am, so that's no problem.
Picture, picture.
No, no.
I'm shy.
You're small, right?
I'm not small.
I have a baby face.
I have a baby face.
here in Germany and also in the Netherlands
they have another one
which is Bishamart
but in Germany too
and there you have to sing for your candy
what?
yeah it's annoying, kids come at your door and you're like
damn it, I was watching my favorite show
get the fuck out
they sing and you have to listen to the whole song
candy
can you tell them I'll just give you the candy and you don
't sing
no
that's possible but they don't do it
they want to sing
lanterns and stuff that they made at school.
That's awesome.
We used to have
these safe lanterns with
just a light bulb in it.
We used to have lanterns with candles.
At least every year, one of them would
go up in flames. Wonderful.
That must be so awesome. Yeah, experience the same.
It's so funny to see these kids
freaking out.
And then
on the ground, and then the parents go like...
Why did all the cool stuff
not happen here.
You move too much.
It's because Halloween
you don't have the cool candles.
They have like
flashlight or something.
Well, they have
flaming rolls
of toilet paper.
Nice.
That's even better.
Oh, yeah.
And there's the flaming bags
of dog crap.
And you put them on
you light them
and you put them on
some of these
in front of some of these doors
and they stomp on it
to out it
and you know the reaction.
We used to do that
without Halloween.
You people suck,
I swear.
it's actually pretty it's just so nasty someone would do
that to my uh with my doorstep stairs
i killed him well now you know i've been chased a lot when
i was a kid now you know not to step
on it no of course not yeah well and in front of my door so
that's good so what's this got to do
with computer graphics i don't know well particle oracle
effects man particle effects those fire
Fire is hard to make man
It's reference
Yeah Halloween is perfect
You can just go outside with a camera
And you have inspiration to make characters
For years to come
Yeah we could make Halloween games
We could make a character named Simon
Playing Simon
That's scary man
You got hit right there
Simon the coder
Yeah
That's so
You will blow
Yeah you are
Like the other day Simon showed us
How he programmed a cube
Oh god damn yeah
I mean like talk about 20 years to he he print was just
huge I don't know what did you do
which one I made a mouse scripting really yeah I made like
an automated city generator no you
didn't you made a cube you made a cube you mean when it did
not even work on your shark man okay
well you know what let's talk about something CG um any of
you guys ever heard about the
Peugeot design contest.
They finish it every year.
You joined it?
No, I don't think I joined.
I wanted to, but then I saw
the people that competed and I was like,
oh man, I'm being owned.
And I haven't even started yet.
Yeah.
Plus I'm not good at drawing, so
nah. Oh, you have to draw the car first?
No, but it would be handy if you
could use them as reference or as blueprints
as I always use for my cars.
That's true.
And I think all the winning cars get made, but I'm not
quite sure about that.
What would that be?
I don't think they did.
One of the cars got made.
I think the one that was like, yeah, Future or something.
Yeah, I've seen a lot of sci-fi designs, but I don't like
them.
Why, they suck?
Yeah, really.
They're like, you know, the movie, what's it called?
Minority Report.
Yeah, Minority Report.
Those kind of cars, you know.
I hate them.
I don't know why, but I think the cars that come out today
are very, very attractive.
There needs to be a flying car, dammit.
They said in the air, two cars.
Well, we do, but they have wings.
We already have so many car crashes.
Imagine what happens if the cars are in the air.
It's called natural selection.
We need a lot more hospitals, then.
Hey, business.
Whoa, everything dropped out there for a few seconds.
What?
It did?
Yeah, I couldn't hear you.
That's you, man.
I know.
This drops off from time to time, but it's like...
It's hateful, man. It's hateful.
Wow.
So, help me out a lot, guys.
What? What?
We can go on for a new talk.
Oh, damn it.
I'm out of things to say.
Simon, what are you clicking at?
Simon is modeling.
He's not part of the conversation at all.
Simon, be more available.
Be more active.
Yeah, don't be so passive.
Oh, what do you want to talk about?
So, Simon, how are you today?
How am I today?
Well, you know, I don't know.
I'm pretty good.
You?
I really do not want to edit this.
It's going to be as it is because I have class tomorrow and
I'm not staying up until 2 a.m.
So this will go as it is.
You're actually going to put it online.
Why not?
It's way better than the other one that I recorded with
Richard.
That is true.
Just don't get that bad old line, please.
The one with Richard is just crash and burn,
plus more crashing and burning,
with some more burning added in for good measure.
If enough people want to hear it, I'll post it.
So if you want to hear it, just send me an email to,
I don't know what my email is.
It's probably Olivier.
I don't know what your email is.
Yeah, let me check my email really quick.
Which one is it?
Yeah, so if enough people want to hear it,
If I get enough emails, I will post it off.
It'll probably ruin the reputation of CGCast,
but I'll do anything for my...
You don't have a reputation.
It's completely fictional.
Thank you for killing...
Yeah, it's a lot, Simon.
Anyways, the email is archer at CGCast.com.
There we go.
I think my host is...
I think my designer is dead.
I haven't seen him in a long time.
Ruben, are you still alive?
And what else?
Yeah.
Well, is anybody doing the contest, Jan?
What contest?
Yeah, in the CG talk.
No.
Oh, no.
I once participated in a contest for an environmental model
.
Uh-huh.
And I got second, though.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What, you got second?
Second place?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What did you win?
Pretty awesome.
Yeah, but it was the mini game.
How many people joined?
I don't know, eight maybe.
Not bad.
Let's see if I can find it.
No, but the first place was, yeah, it was quite cool.
But it's also the one that won the previous contest
has to start a new one, and he may pick the winner.
Okay.
So it's kind of like someone's own opinion.
Well, it always is pretty much with art.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah, true.
It's always debatable.
Yeah.
I had somebody telling me the other day about cameras.
I forgot what he said.
But the new digital cameras are much better than the film
cameras that we had long ago,
blah, blah, blah, which is not true.
Any film camera can beat a digital camera right now.
Yeah, I love film so much.
but it's just so much work
especially the darkroom
okay back on CG
photos we're taking with film
I found the contest link
awesome paste it
link what's up
my stuff is still in there
I'll put it on the show notes
you don't put my link on the show notes
the halo picture
that was just for you guys
fine
my picture is not
on it anymore
I can re-upload the picture
and it would be fixed though
that's the link
and let me find that picture
it should be on my computer somewhere
you're letting us down man
no man I'm fixing it as we speak
what the hell is that code Simon
oh man Simon you suck
is that another box
better
no that's a cylinder
what on earth
it's four sides it's a box
no
what is it
Oh, look. Six lines of code. How can you not understand
that?
I don't code at all.
I don't have the actual submission sheet online anymore.
So I'll just upload two pictures.
You know, we should do it when there's some mini-challenge.
I seriously don't understand that code either.
And I have coded very little.
You fail at coding, Simon.
Yeah.
It's polycrate facet and there's four sides.
No, there's four vertices.
So it's a plane?
It's a polygon.
But it's moving, and it has x, y coordinates.
It's a wave modeler.
You put in different values and you get different types of
waves.
This is a really efficient way of modeling.
Yeah.
Can you make a phase by just coding it?
I might actually do that, just for the hell of it.
I probably can't take forever.
a face generator with
sliders.
So you can get what size the eyes.
I'm going to have a slider for it.
I thought that would be really cool.
What's the fun in that?
If every face is generated,
that means that we are out of our job.
I don't want that.
I'm here to make movies.
Ooh, stairs!
I shall say, oh snap.
Ooh, oh stairs.
Oh, stairs.
So, yeah.
I was actually just looking at...
Oh, more stairs.
Yeah, it's the same.
God damn it.
Why did you make the stairs?
I didn't know what else to do.
I previously made a garbage bin from my hood,
but I couldn't join in with that because I already made it.
Did you make the textures or did you steal them?
No, I did them all.
You painted them?
That's pretty cool.
You have to teach me how to make textures because I suck at
it.
That's cool.
And this is the...
I'm not sure if this is going to work.
Let me just upload the garbage bin.
Yay.
I think there should be a meetup, a Europe meetup somewhere
.
That'd be cool.
For what?
I don't know.
A CG people meetup in Europe.
To Dennis's house.
That'd be fun.
We all go to Dennis's house in the Netherlands.
We will invade Guerrilla Studios.
That'd be cool.
And hold on, there's another link coming.
I have to put all of this in Simon's website,
Game Art Friends.
It's still not scrolling, Simon.
Why is it not scrolling?
It's only IE7 that doesn't.
Have you updated your IE7, by the way?
Because it might actually be a glitch with IE7.
I have no idea.
It's not scrolling for me.
I'm using IE7.
I still need to upload some images for it
because I've only got a few for metal or a few for...
We can barely hear you, Simon, seriously.
That's because I'm leaning back.
Don't do that.
Yeah, sorry.
Chilling your own time, man.
These are textures.
Let's see.
You painted all of that.
You didn't use any photos?
Of course you use photos.
Oh, okay.
But you edit them, and you only use them for a base.
It's not really that you make a picture of concrete, for
example,
just paste it there and boom, done.
there's a lot of things done to it because the the dirt
that you see that's handmade um
the metal is handmade i didn't use any textures or photos
for it i just brushed it and yeah what
about the price who owns the rights to it now the
photographer or you or what's up with that
well i made my own uh reference pictures so they're mine
fair enough but i guess if you if
If you make...
Anybody knows law?
Like, if you make a 3D character based out of somebody,
you have to have them sign a consent form?
Probably.
If you're using it in a retail...
No, no, no.
I don't think you'll be in problems
if you don't release it or sell it for money.
But if it's in a commercial product,
then you would be in trouble.
What if you make a character that looks like somebody
that you don't know?
It's like pure coincidence.
You're born like a Team America, where they've got the
celebrities.
Yeah, but Team America has some parody laws.
You can do whatever you want as long as it's a parody.
That's why South Park doesn't get sued to hell,
Celebrity Deathmatch doesn't get sued to hell, and stuff
like that.
As long as it's a parody, you can get away with anything.
All the copyright infringement you want.
It's also why Weird Al doesn't get sued to hell.
Oh, have you seen the new one?
Yeah, White Nerdy. That's beautiful.
Awesome.
That prescriber swells Klingons.
He sings it better than the original.
Yeah.
Most definitely.
And the text is better too.
Yeah.
That was just a great video.
I think it's time to wrap up.
Yeah.
Any final words?
Not really.
Bye.
Someone set us off the bomb.
Say that in reverse.
No.
Bomb the US, upset someone.
Nice.
It's a subliminal message.
Anyways, everybody, there's the CGCast chat, which is cg
cast.com slash chat.
You can join if you want.
I'm normally there with Alex.
That is very nice.
So join up.
I don't think he recorded that.
That's an order.
Yeah, join up right now.
No, but seriously, if you want to chat, you can join it.
www.cgcast.com slash chat.
Good times there.
Really?
Okay, that's not true, but if you come, there will be good
times.
What else?
We'll promise.
Yeah, I promise.
What else?
I don't know.
You guys want to plug anything?
Plug?
Your websites?
Anybody's websites?
No, no, no.
My website sucks.
It needs updating.
Oh, snap.
Sadly.
No, snap.
Sorry, hi.
What else?
You can plug my free text library on your site.
You can plug it if you speak louder.
That way people can hear you.
Yeah, I'm speaking louder.
But yeah, gameartfriends.com.
Can you tell us a little bit about gameartfriends.com?
It's not finished yet.
There's going to be a big free text library
and I'm going to move all my articles and interviews
that I did with all those famous CG artists
on freelancing and stuff in the game industry.
I'll move them over.
But yeah, that's about it.
There's not much to say about it yet.
It's got a big free texture library, though.
It's got a royalty-free.
But there's one problem.
You cannot scroll in Internet Explorer 7.
That's your problem.
I haven't had that complaint from anyone else, Archer.
Actually, Tech also said that it didn't work.
Oh, burn.
Uh, yeah.
I'm going to get someone.
What?
Oh, snap?
Come on, what's wrong with, oh, snap?
Seriously, it's just beautiful.
Oh, what the freaking hell?
Oh, shit?
Or what the...
Oh, no, no.
That's so 1980s, man.
Come on.
Yeah.
Get with the times.
This show's would-be titles.
Snap.
Don't snort in there.
I will.
Oh, snapisode.
We're going to have to find fiction in there that says,
Oh, snapisode.
Number 31.
Anyways, say goodbye, everybody.
I'll just change this to MP3 and just put some music in
front of it.
And that's it.
Please love and everything.
No, edit.
Bye, everybody.
Bye, everybody.
Bye.
I can't find the last.
Okay.
It's over now.
